Monthly Archive for March, 2008

Preparing for Next Year's Consulting Interviews — Start Now!

Last week Kellogg Leliveld and I visited two senior people from McKinsey to discuss Darden recruiting. The great news: they hired many from Darden’s First Year class, making them one of our top five recruiters. The bad news: they wanted more — and need to get more each year to make the investment worthwhile. (I’ve deleted the actual numbers to protect confidentiality.) The good news: they hire Second Years, even if you did not have a summer in consulting. The tough news: you really have to prepare to make it.

These recruiters had hoped their take from the Class of 2008 would have been higher. McKinsey really invested in Darden this year, stationing an ambassador at Darden a couple of days a week. These recruiters believe the talent is here, but this year our students did not do as well in the case interviewing portion of the screening process as they needed to. The Class of 2009 fared better and was better prepared for the interviews. But these recruiters believe there is still an upside to the number. What is terrific about McKinsey (and several other top consulting firms) is that they don’t limit themselves to just “consulting” focused students. They want to speak to smart people with a demonstrated ability to think critically and analytically and create solutions to problems. If you spend this summer in I-banking, but think you might want to go into consulting, then you have that opportunity next fall.

But, you have to prepare. More than any other form of interviewing, case interviewing requires multiple stages of preparation. You must learn and master the techniques, so that when new cases come your way, you can deal with them. Spend this summer practicing. Practice with classmates in consulting. If you are in a city with alumni in consulting (a McKinsey office, for example), contact them, let them know about your desire to interview in consulting next fall, and ask for an opportunity to practice.

A gentle reminder: it will be too late if you begin your case interviewing preparation in September when you return. We plan to have even more prep for First Year students next year, with help from McKinsey and other firms. But as a Second Year, you must work hard in the summer and in September to be ready for interviewing in October.

Contact Brendan Boler in the Career Development Center if you want to practice with a Career Consultant.

Re-Inventing the Recruiting Calendar

The recruiting calendar as we currently know it needs to change. By recruiting calendar I mean all the various aspects of company/student interaction from the first Career Discovery in September to the last interview in the Spring. The problems:

students don’t have enough time to focus on their academics;

students are not ready to meet individual companies as early as September because they have not yet really established their career objectives;

students have trouble balancing the demands of recruiting events versus academic events, particularly in the fall;

students have trouble focusing on some of the job search process when Black November hits, yet the job search activities are not optional at that point;

some students are significant career switchers. They want to spend time on self assessment when it is launched in September, but because regular academic classes start, they are unable to spend time on the needed introspection and self assessment;

students get sucked into the on-Grounds interviewing process early in January before they start their off-Grounds search. Then these students end up getting offers from the on-Grounds companies ahead of the off-Grounds ones. This forces students to accept on-Grounds offers before their off-Grounds search gets traction. This is a shame, because then students “follow the herd” rather than pursue their passion.

Companies face issues as well: Companies are eager to get to know students, and for the past several years, it has been a “students” market — one in which students received multiple offers and, consequently, companies needed to be extremely competitive with each other. Companies want to come as early and often as they can to get to know students and to build their companies’ brands. To complicate matters, Darden is in Charlottesville, not midtown Manhattan, so it is not easy for companies to get to Darden. Additionally, Darden is ranked around 10th, not 5th, so we have to make it as easy as possible for companies to recruit here.

With all those factors in mind (excluding the Darden specific ones), several top 10 business schools are considering pushing back the calendar (i.e. briefings start in November, interviewing in mid-February). They are intent on solving the issues, and I applaud their efforts. They would like Darden to participate as well. Their rationale is that if every school does it, the companies will have no choice but to comply. While no decision has been made yet, the ideas are under consideration.

Darden has chosen not to pursue this course. While I acknowledge the problems exist, and a solution is a must, I don’t believe that a delayed calendar is in Darden’s best interest. There are several reasons why this is the case. The first consideration involves interviewing. Darden is one of the few schools on the schedule of four quarters in the academic year. The calendar therefore will not allow for a break in February for interviews. Darden is also in a very competitive situation with other schools for companies recruiting slots. If Darden were to be less convenient than say Duke or Yale or Texas or Michigan, then companies might choose to go to those schools instead.

The next issue consideration is briefing timing. Darden is, as I have mentioned, a bit hard to get to so we need to make it as convenient as possible. Some companies do briefings for First Years when they visit to interview Second Years. Also, other programs have more slots for briefings since their students don’t have the rigorous schedule that Darden students have. Because we limit the number of briefing slots during a day, we need the entire months of September, October and part of November to get all the briefings in.

But Darden must begin to solve the problems also, in order to help our students succeed in both academics and career search. So here are some of the things that Darden will try next year. We are going to limit the time spent in briefings. We intend to hold every company to 45 minutes or less (rather than 1 hour 15 minutes). We plan to let only companies that have a history of over 45 students in attendance have their own briefing. All new companies and smaller companies will participate in multiple company showcase events, scheduled on reading days or afternoons when there are no cases the next day. In this showcase event, four companies will have 15 minutes each to present, followed by an hour of networking with students. There will be very few (if any) 6:30 briefings — they will all be in the afternoon, so as not to interfere with learning teams. There will be no Second Year briefings — these will be replaced by Second Year networking nights scheduled in September, where companies can network with students. We will strongly discourage Powerpoint presentations. We will encourage these presentations to be sent ahead of time.

With regard to interviewing: we will still have one week of interviewing prior to the start of classes in January. Next year, we will be sure to have a good functional mix of companies in the first week, so that everyone can benefit from the “no class” situation. We plan to have McKinsey in this first week (we have spoken to them already), as McKinsey was a major cause of class absences during the first week of classes this year. Also, we will ensure that every Friday during Q3 is a Reading Day, so that students can travel for call backs and off-Grounds search efforts on Fridays.

None of these ideas are final yet. We have just started vetting them with students. I could use your input. What do you think?

Are You Making an Impact?

An alumnus from 2004 just phoned to tell me about an opportunity for a new rotational program at his company. He met with the manager leading the recruiting effort today and convinced her that she should consider Darden students. He gave me her name and number, and I plan to follow up today.

This alum is no ordinary alum. He’s Venezuelan. He works for a US company that doesn’t hire international students. He graduated in a year when the employment rate at graduation was 68%. He was determined in his second-year job search to find a position in consumer packaged goods. I have never met a student in my five years who so methodically approached the off-Grounds search and who embodied a positive, winning attitude throughout the job search. We met early and often. I remember so clearly his target list of companies and the list of alumni at each. He never gave up on his objective. He landed a position with a major CPG firm, first in a sales/field marketing role. He just told me that last June he was promoted back to headquarters as Senior Manager International Sports Marketing, managing this company’s international sponsorships of professional soccer. His quote to me: “Imagine a Latin American running sponsorships of professional soccer for a major American company. It’s like a dream job.”

I was pleased to receive his call on two levels: one, I really appreciated the lead and his efforts on Darden’s behalf. When we turn this into a full-time recruiting arrangement with this company, he will be the one who deserves the credit. Two, I’m glad he called to tell me about his success at his company. It’s nice to see that I have had an impact in a small way on someone’s life and career. In all of my jobs prior to this one, I could easily see my impact in the marketplace. A1 Steak Sauce, Grey Poupon Mustard, Lunchables Lunch Combinations, Shake n Bake Coating Mix: I can still see my fingerprints in the grocery store every time I go shopping. In this job I find it more difficult to see if I am making an impact. But after five years, I’m beginning to get a little longer-term feedback. Another example: I recently received a copy of an inter-office communication from a leading consulting firm — one of our Darden alumni, Class of 2005, just received a promotion. As I read the email, I was happy for the alum, and I felt a sense of accomplishment for him–and for me. I played a particularly strong hand in helping this alum get this job; I am happy to see him succeed, and it is rewarding to see that my work is starting to make an impact in the world of business.

As I close, I get to the subject: are you making an impact? Recently Darden students held elections for the Class of 2009 class officers. I was excited to see a few very talented students elected to key positions (and also disappointed that some I knew really well did not get elected to the jobs they were seeking). One student in particular, whom I have gotten to know pretty well in the first-year, was seeking a major office and didn’t get it. But days later she emerged in another senior position in which she will have a major impact. As you prepare for your job, summer internship or full time, think about how you are going to make an impact. Companies seek employees that make a difference, that impact their business and the organization. I have found that those employees that have the biggest impact in their jobs early are those that are practiced in the art. These people have been making an impact since kindergarten. Some who bloom later begin making an impact in college and their first jobs. They also come to Darden and have a positive impact here. Then they leave and have an impact in their sphere of influence and many begin leaving a legacy (more on that in a future blog). So, I ask again: are you making an impact now? How are you planning to make an impact in your next role. I’d be happy to discuss this if you’d like to stop by.