{"id":7640,"date":"2021-02-01T10:21:38","date_gmt":"2021-02-01T15:21:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/?p=7640"},"modified":"2022-03-13T15:17:06","modified_gmt":"2022-03-13T19:17:06","slug":"vaccine-rollout-vivian-riefberg","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/2021\/02\/01\/vaccine-rollout-vivian-riefberg\/","title":{"rendered":"4 Vaccine Rollout Challenges, According to Darden Health Care Expert Vivian Riefberg"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/news.virginia.edu\/content\/4-vaccine-rollout-challenges-according-darden-health-care-expert\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">By Caroline Newman, UVAToday<\/a><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"has-dropcap\">M<\/span>any people around the world have a common question on their mind: When can I get the COVID-19 vaccine?<\/p>\n<p>The production and distribution of such a vaccine \u2013 the most promising tool (along with mask-wearing) for lifting the world out of the current pandemic \u2013 is a medical concern, of course, but it is also an operational challenge of epic proportions. Vivian Riefberg, a health care expert and professor of practice in the University of Virginia\u2019s Darden School of Business, called it \u201cone of the most complicated mass mobilizations and product distribution launches the world has ever attempted.\u201d Riefberg is the\u00a0David C. Walentas Jefferson Scholars Foundation Professor.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe are introducing multiple novel vaccines to huge numbers of people, with different storage and administration regimens for different vaccines,\u201d she said \u201cAnd, we want to \u2013 we must \u2013 do it very quickly. We have never launched a set of products like this in this country or in the world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Riefberg, though not an M.D., is very well-acquainted with the operational challenges behind many health care efforts, as well as public sector leadership. Before joining Darden in August, she worked with consulting firm McKinsey &amp; Company for 31 years, where she co-led their U.S. health care services practice, helping health care clients with the strategy, organization and operational issues behind all sorts of health care and public health problems. She also co-led the firm\u2019s America public sector practice, where she worked extensively with public sector agencies on an array of operational and organizational issues.<\/p>\n<p>Riefberg brought that expertise to Darden in the middle of the current pandemic, and this fall team-taught a course on COVID-19 and decision-making alongside UVA Physicians Group CEO Corey Feist, interim UVA Health Chief Medical Officer Dr. Paul Matherne and the World Bank\u2019s Ayhan Kose.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7641\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7641\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-7641\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vivian_inline-01-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vivian_inline-01-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vivian_inline-01-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vivian_inline-01-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vivian_inline-01-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vivian_inline-01-1320x880.jpg 1320w, https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vivian_inline-01.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7641\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Vivian Riefberg co-led consulting firm McKinsey &amp; Company\u2019s U.S. health care services practice and America public sector practice before coming to Darden. (Photo by Jen Skipper, Jefferson Scholars Foundation)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>We caught up with Riefberg last week to talk about some of the logistical challenges of distributing current COVID-19 vaccine options, as countries around the world are working to vaccinate their citizens and, in the U.S., a new presidential administration hopes to hit 100 million vaccinations in 100 days and perhaps more, as President Joe Biden said yesterday he wants to get to 1.5 million vaccinations daily, instead of just 1 million.<\/p>\n<p>Here are four important challenges she identified \u2013 and her prediction for when we might get to \u201cherd immunity.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Fixing the Demand vs. Supply Problem \u2013 and Bringing in New Vaccines<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Though the first month of the U.S. vaccine rollout was marked by logistical stumbles and infrastructure gaps, Riefberg believes those will resolve fairly quickly. The bigger problem, she said, is vaccine supply.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think, in the next two months, we will likely have most of the infrastructure in place to distribute the vaccines, but demand will continue to substantially outstrip supply,\u201d she said. \u201cThe key question is not just how we get to herd immunity, but how we get there\u00a0<em>quickly<\/em>\u00a0\u2013 in months instead of years.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Riefberg said the use of the Defense Production Act could be helpful. The act, passed in 1950, allows the U.S. government to require private companies to prioritize production of items necessary to national security. The Trump administration used the act some with regard to vaccine production; the new Biden administration is expected to use it even more.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI believe that will help with issues in the supply chain, and with shortages of materials needed to make and deliver the vaccines,\u201d Riefberg said.<\/p>\n<p>Another possible influx of vaccine supply could come from pharmaceutical companies that are hoping their vaccines can gain emergency use authorization from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration over the coming weeks and months. Chief among them are Johnson &amp; Johnson and AstraZeneca, two companies that are nearing the end of late-stage clinical trials and hope to join Moderna and Pfizer, the two companies with vaccines available right now.<\/p>\n<p>The Johnson &amp; Johnson vaccine needs only a single dose; while the others require two doses several weeks apart. However, Johnson &amp; Johnson has already acknowledged some manufacturing issues that could slow down their vaccine production.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe need to be thinking about strategies for integrating all of these vaccines \u2013 some of which may have different levels of efficacy \u2013 and distributing them equitably, especially if there are real differences in the efficacy,\u201d Riefberg said.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Building Public-Private Partnerships<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Online retail giant Amazon made headlines recently for sending a letter to the Biden administration offering to help with vaccine distribution. Riefberg said such offers are hardly surprising \u2013 \u201cit\u2019s natural that any business would want in on one of the government\u2019s top priorities, especially if they are interested in enhancing their health care businesses.\u201d But, she said, it\u2019s important for federal, state and local governments and private companies to find productive ways to work together.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have to recognize that this is a collaborative, multi-stakeholder effort \u2013 not just between the federal government and the states, but among the more than 3,000 counties in the U.S., and the full array of community organizations and various traditional and non-traditional health care delivery enterprises that make up our fragmented health care system, if we are going to get the job done well and fast,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>On the private side, if the government is going to partner with Amazon, or with commercial pharmacies like CVS or Walgreens. \u201cHow can we take advantage of their reservation systems, or the ways they distribute the flu shot, or the shingles shot I got this past year?\u201d Riefberg asked.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have to figure out how to use the infrastructure we already have, in a coordinated way. \u2026 The Amazons, CVSs and Walgreens of the world have a lot of experience with storage, logistics and movement issues. How can they share with the government? How can public and private work together?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Finding More Equitable Ways to Distribute the Vaccine<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Riefberg raised concerns about equitable distribution of the vaccine, including to communities harder-hit by the virus, such as Black or Latino communities. Equitable means of signing up for vaccination should also be considered. Internet-only signups, for example, would exclude people without internet access, or perhaps elderly people who have more trouble navigating the internet. Communities that do not have ready access to pharmacies or hospitals are also at a disadvantage; as are patients without cars or public transportation that can help them get to and from vaccination clinics.<\/p>\n<p>To solve this problem, Riefberg favored working with organizations that already have a long history of successfully working in the community, from national organizations like the NAACP or UnidosUS to local churches and community centers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe need to work with organizations that are already embedded and trusted parties in at-risk communities, to help them educate people and then bring them to trusted organizations to get appointments and get vaccinated,\u201d Riefberg said. \u201cWe also need to consider solutions like mobile vaccination clinics, which could be especially helpful with vaccinations with less stringent temperature requirements.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Education is critical, especially in minority communities that have too often faced discrimination abuse in the health care system.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am not sure enough is being done to alleviate concern among underrepresented minorities who have been the subject of problematic, discriminatory health care actions in the past,\u201d Riefberg said. \u201cHow do we gain confidence and trust?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Riefberg invited both Dr. David Wilkes, dean of UVA\u2019s School of Medicine, and Dr. Taison Bell, director of UVA\u2019s Medical Intensive Care Unit, to speak to her Darden classes about disparities in health care. Wilkes has worked to diversify the ranks of health care faculty members, serving since 2013 as national director of the Harold Amos Medical Faculty Development Program for the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. The program seeks to increase the number of medical, dental and nursing faculty from historically disadvantaged backgrounds. Bell was among the first UVA Health employees to receive the vaccine and has been an outspoken advocate on social media, helping to educate followers about the vaccine and his experience with it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBoth of these men are really helping and are really showing how we can all be part of the solution,\u201d Riefberg said.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7642\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7642\" style=\"width: 687px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7642 \" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vaccine-keys_ss_inline-02-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"687\" height=\"458\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vaccine-keys_ss_inline-02-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vaccine-keys_ss_inline-02-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vaccine-keys_ss_inline-02-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.darden.virginia.edu\/admissions\/files\/2021\/01\/riefberg-vaccine-keys_ss_inline-02.jpg 1199w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 687px) 100vw, 687px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7642\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dr. Taison Bell (EMBA &#8217;20) was among the first UVA Health employees to receive the COVID-19 vaccine at UVA and has been an outspoken advocate for the vaccine on social media. (Photo by Sanjay Suchak, University Communications)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Collecting and Sharing Better Data<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Simple information is another challenge. Right now, it\u2019s hard to tell exactly how many doses have been given and where they have gone, Riefberg said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere is a lot of confusion around information and data,\u201d Riefberg said, noting that the data especially breaks down around the \u201clast mile\u201d \u2013 the gap between where vaccines are shipped and where and how many are actually given.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere seems to be a disconnect between shipping data from the companies, and then data from the federal level to the state level, the state level to the local level tracking where those shipments actually end up, and when the vaccines actually get into people\u2019s arms,\u201d she said. \u201cWe need a better reservation and follow-up system end to end \u2013 not necessarily a centralized system, but one capable of sharing information.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hoping for Herd Immunity<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>All things considered, Riefberg said she is hopeful that the U.S. will achieve or nearly achieve herd immunity by the fall, or at least by the end of 2021. However, she expects it will be nearer the fourth quarter of the year, rather than spring, before any American at any time can simply walk into a pharmacy and get a COVID-19 vaccine, like you would a flu shot.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI might be slightly more pessimistic than some,\u201d she acknowledged, \u201cbut I think we will get to herd immunity in 2021, and I think we can meet and surpass the new administration\u2019s original goal of giving 100 million vaccinations in 100 days.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/news.virginia.edu\/content\/4-vaccine-rollout-challenges-according-darden-health-care-expert\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Originally published on UVAToday.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Be sure to consult the\u00a0<a style=\"text-decoration: none;background-color: transparent;color: #e57200\" href=\"https:\/\/news.darden.virginia.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Latest News<\/a>\u00a0regularly for the most updated news releases and media hits.\u00a0<\/em><em>Check out faculty thought leadership published on\u00a0<a style=\"text-decoration: none;background-color: transparent;color: #e57200\" href=\"http:\/\/ideas.darden.virginia.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ideas to Action<\/a>.\u00a0<\/em><em>And stay connected with us via social media:\u00a0<a style=\"text-decoration: none;background-color: transparent;color: #e57200\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/DardenMBA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Facebook<\/a>,\u00a0<a style=\"text-decoration: none;background-color: transparent;color: #e57200\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/dardenmba\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Instagram<\/a>,\u00a0<a style=\"text-decoration: none;background-color: transparent;color: #e57200\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/edu\/school?id=19605\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">LinkedIn<\/a>,\u00a0<a style=\"text-decoration: none;background-color: transparent;color: #e57200\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DardenMBA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Twitter<\/a>,\u00a0<a style=\"text-decoration: none;background-color: transparent;color: #e57200\" href=\"http:\/\/brand.darden.virginia.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/qrcode_for_gh_23920314812f_860.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">WeChat<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Caroline Newman, UVAToday Many people around the world have a common question on their mind: When can I get the COVID-19 vaccine? 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